So in my most recent game my strategy was to cause civil wars to weaken all of the human nations, and pick them off with the flesh one by one. I succeeded, and now the world is only inhabited by flesh and fishmen after the flesh ate all humans and worms. The game won't end since now that humanity is extinct I can't enshadow 75% of it. Am I supposed to be able to do that, and if I am then would that be considered a win, loss, or is it some kind of draw?
Shadows Behind The Throne 2
A downloadable game for Windows and Linux
A grand strategy game, in which you take the role of an ancient evil, come to destroy the empires of humankind. Initially weak, you work by sowing dissent in a complex political environment, taking over a low-ranking noble and working your way up. Play factions against each other, and support dissidents to provoke civil wars, all the while building up your forces.
An Open-Source sequel to a previous game, with a new focus on playability and coherent, polished gameplay. Repository available at: https://github.com/FallenOakGames/ShadowsBehindTheThrone2
Note: This game is under development, and this current build is the very first, still lacking a variety of features before it can be considered "feature complete". Early release in order to get feedback, should anyone have any.
The world simulates a set of nobles, all with their own aims and interests. They existing in societies, and vote to achieve their ends. By proposing votes, and voting strategically, you can manipulate them into failing to respond to the true threat, your slowly-developing hidden forces.
Set silversmiths against wine-makers, while subverting coastal villages to build an army of Deep One fish-people, waiting to storm the surface. Rally your kingdom against another, while supporting dissident nobles in the other in order to provoke civil war, weakening them such that they make easy prey. Grow horrific fields of fleshy limbs and gnashing teeth to terrify the nobles into failing to realise that your enthralled noble is slowly converting them from within into dark cultists.
A Let's Play!
We've recorded a video showing an overview of the game. It's intended to give a rough beginner's guide to the game (at least the version 1 of the game). It's a bit long, but hopefully it could help beginner players to get their bearings, and to show the community how we regard the "classic" gameplay (of course any strategy that works is a valid strategy).
Alexander Wild, Wyatt Lindquist, Tasneem Solie
Main screen art by Derek Restivo
Mouse + Keyboard.
Mouse handles camera panning, selecting (left to move/inspect, right to select), menu button clicking.
Keyboard camera panning through WASD or arrow keys, map-view lenses bound to number keys
Mouse wheel or z/x keys for map zoom
2D graphics and turn based nature require little in the way of CPU or GPU power. Prefer screen resolutions of 1366x768 or above, but tested and functional on lower. Memory footprint around 200meg.
Hopefully development will continue as the other project did, although at a slower rate. New versions will come out, and community feedback (should you wish to provide any) listened to and accommodated if possible.
You are welcome to view the source code for your own purposes. Should you wish to go further and fork or submit a pull request for the project, please contact the authors to discuss such matters.
|Updated||7 days ago|
|Published||22 days ago|
|Tags||2D, Dark Fantasy, GitHub, grand-strategy, Hex Based, Horror, Open Source, Singleplayer, Turn-based Strategy|
|Average session||About a half-hour|
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You're ahead of the game, in fact. It was fully intended to be a second victory condition (so the player could pick which one the wanted), but it's not yet implemented, and was intended to be added in the next major update.
For now, my congratulations, you can consider that a complete and glorious victory.
Actually, I don't quite understand your attachment to wastelands idea with flesh and fishmen. That's stupid. I met the game week ago and after that I found Version 13. It is the best and you should return to it.
I am very fond of idea with enthralled noble making their way to create dark empire or make dark cult, or dark emperor cult and whatever, I think your early versions of the game are very close to that, the only problem was with that nobles actually couldn't do much and player(god) was the only force there.
So now even the vassal system was removed/wasn't added. What the reason? What the main idea of the game?
Sorry, my comment can be demotivating.
You would do well to look at the development log "A new beginning" - several of the issues you raise are addressed there.
I assure you, I'm not easily discouraged.
As mentioned in the devLog, the game still focuses primarly on the "dark empire" side of things, revolving around politics and suchlike. The ideal is for the systems in that approach to be sufficiently complex that you can remove half of them and play exclusively from the "outside", manipulating foreign empires without the enthralled being present in them. As such, any improvements to the Fishmen and Flesh side of the game will mean improvements to the "classic" form of the game, with the enthralled playing politics.
Nobles actually could do a lot more in some unreleased prototype versions of the game, they would have their own plots and objectives. It turns out that this was nearly impossible for a human to follow, due to the sheer combinatorial complexity of having every single noble taking complex actions. The game is designed to be very transparent about why a noble is doing, and what they are doing, to allow the player to be the main actor in the game, rather than needing a week plotting graphs and reading logs to understand how each and every noble is acting and what their motives are. It may return in a later version, possible as an optional additional feature, for people who think the main game is too simple.
You're correct that societies have changed, and are currently simpler. The reason was the most of the heirarchy was invisible most of the time (you never cared about the counts vassalised under a different Duchess), and therefore the player either was unaware of important characters, or that most of the characters would have to be irrelevant. With the new system, every noble is present in every decision and the player gets to know all of them. No-one is 'hidden'. If your enthralled exists in a society then they'll need to learn all that society's nobles, and interact with them throughout the game, or find ways to have them removed.
I really like some of the advantages of the heirarchy system, especially some gameplay which hasn't been explored in any version (such as pulling strings in court to get a useful noble added to your pool of vassals, or trying to get one of your loyal spies into a rival Duke's vassalage). As such, in future versions we intend to re-introduce unlanded titles, such as command over a province, or special roles, giving special actions, such as inquisitor or spymaster. This would give better progression to the game, as you would need to slowly progress your enthralled up the ranks, as you did previously.
great news! Hope you will write devlogs so I can quickly keep up with changes!
Is there any Let's Play video or something similar ? I can't find anything.
Not as of yet, sorry. We were planning on one, but time is hard to come by, and the save/load code is being an utter pain to work with, so progress is slow.
I really loved some versions of the original, so I'm very excited for a sequel. Personally I felt that the later versions were weaker than the ones in the middle, but I can't remember why anymore. Guess I'll have to replay them to test.
Really looking forward to how it'll evolve.
Yeah, I completely agree. The game really lost its way towards the later versions. I think V13 may be the best. I'll write up something about what I think the successes and the failures of the first game were, and how I hope we can get this new one to keep the good and avoid the mistakes
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I'm super pumped for this! SBTT1, incomplete as it was, was really fun. I'm going to give this a try as soon as soon as I get home.
Thanks man. Hope to get this version to fix all the issues the first one had, and polish it up into a complete package
Hi ! Could you release a PC Linux version please ?
Linux version up. Seems to work on my Mint laptop, except the tutorial isn't visible, for some absurd reason, presumably relating to Unity encodings. I'll fix it, but in the meantime I've added the tutorial images as just a folder alongside it.
Hell yeah, rock on Bobby!